Lil’ Wayne – Tha Carter IV [Review]

It’s been more than two years since the man who has been deemed as Raw Tune released his critically acclaimed Tha Carter III. Yet, it isn’t like Weezy F. hasn’t kept new music in constant rotation in our iPods. Since C3 he has put out Dedication 3, a Young Money compilation, No Ceilings, Rebirth, and an apologetic mixtape in Sorry 4 The Wait. Still with that said, this is maybe the most important piece of work and most anticipated album of his career (Even more so than Tha Carter III, which sold 1.5 million in it’s first week). The reason being, Wayne has been through so much. He has had more kids (A lot, I can’t even give you the number maybe 4 more), his team has certified stars now, oh and he did an 8 month bid in jail. Since Wayne has been out, he has told people that musically he is more mature, claimed to have written a lot of rhymes while locked up, and has even hinted at the possibility that this will be his final solo album. Let’s check out if the album lives up to the hype surrounding it.

1. Intro
Produced by Willy Will
The track starts off with light horns and Wayne stating “It’s Been while Man”. The beat comes in and Wayne gave a nice verse to start the album off with. Of course the New Orleans punch line king dropped some really nice bars like “Fuck them niggas, and them hoes, them niggas pussy. Camel toes”. I must applaud Willy Will for giving Wayne this instrumental. This is the same beat that will be on the “Interlude” and “Outro”. This is a nice way to start off the album.

2. Blunt Blowin’
Produced by DVLP & Filthy
This is a very climatic type of beat that DVLP and Filthy gave to Wayne. I really enjoyed what Wayne did with this beat. He really wanted this song to reflect who he is as a person. I know that many people complain that Wayne only talks about Pussy, Money, Weed, Syzzurp, and the team he has created. If you are one of these people, you will hate this song, but it is who he is. He is proud of the person he is and it is evident on this song.

3. MegaMan
Produced by MegaMan
I always wanted Wayne to do this on an album. The reason people love his mixtapes (Sometimes even more than his albums) is because he sometimes sounds like he forces himself to stick to a format. 3 verses and a hook, but here he just roams free. The beat sounds so Lil’ Wayne. I became excited as soon as I heard the instrumentation. He kicks one liners like, “I’m a diamond in the rough, like a baby in the trash”. This is defiantly an early highlight.

4. 6 Foot 7 Foot
Featuring Cory Gunz; Produced by Bangledash
This is the first offering we got from this album. I must admit every time I hear it I get excited. Wayne seems to kill Bangledash beats, but the Lil’ guy by the name of Cory Gunz stole the show:

Word to my mama, I’m out of my lima bean
don’t wanna see what that drama mean, get some Dramamine
llama scream, hotter than summer sun on a Ghana queen
now all I want is hits, bitch, Wayne signed a fiend
I played the side for you niggas that’s tryna front, and see
son of Gunz, Son of Sam, you niggas the son of me
pause for this dumber speech, I glow like Buddha
disturb me, and you’ll be all over the flow like Luda
bitch, I flow like scuba, bitch, I’m bald like Cuba
and I keep a killer ho, she gon’ blow right through ya
I be macking, ’bout my stacking, now I pack like a mover
shout to ratchet for backing out on behalf of my shooter
niggas think they high as I, I come laugh at your ruler
Cash Money cold, bitch, but our actions is cooler
Wayne, these niggas out they mind
I done told these fuck niggas, so many times
that I keep these bucks steady on my mind
tuck these, I fuck these on your mind, pause
to feed them, on my grind, did I get a little love?
keep throwing my sign in the middle
hit ’em up, piece on my side, ’cause ain’t no peace on my side, bitch
I’m a man, I visit urinals abroad
Tune told me to, I’m shooting when the funeral outside
I’m uptown, thoroughbred, a BX nigga, ya heard?

I know a lot of people are sleeping on the young cat, but he has a lot of talent. Looks like Wayne got another one and he picked the perfect way to introduce him to the world.

5. Nightmares Of The Bottom
Produced by Snizzy & Kenoe
Wayne performed this on MTV’s Unplugged and killed it. I wasn’t sure that the audio version was going to be as good as the live rendition, sort of how “Gossip”‘s audio didn’t live up to the live version, but this was just as good if not better. Some will complain that the production is too laid back. I actually enjoyed the song. The laid back instrumental along with Wayne’s voice makes the lyrics sting even more than normal:

It’s like I have it all
But I don’t have to worry
Married to the money, a true love story
Only God can judge me, I don’t need a jury
Nothing standing in my way, like nothings my security
Back to my journey, that bullshit don’t concern me
If I knew I was going to jail I would have fucked my attorney
If you sleeping on me nigga, than I hope you toss and turning
I’m so cold I’m hypothermic, ask yo bitch she will confirm it

This is also the first time you really hear Wayne speak about his situation that led to him spending 8 months on Rikers, “The bullshit don’t concern me, If I knew I was going to jail I would have fucked my attorney”.

6. She Will
Featuring Drake; Producer T-Minus
I first saw a preview of this on MTV news. I saw Wayne going off in the booth and then later talking to Drake about the song. It turned out that T-Minus produced this. I can’t lie, I don’t think this is what he expected Wayne would do with the instrumental, but it turns out pretty special. This sounds like the strip clubs will love this.

7. How To Hate
Featuring Drake; Produced by Young Fyre
Well here comes the T-Pain feature we all knew was going to happen. I really am not a fan of these two doing songs together. It seems like T-Pain brings out the worst in Wayne (“When it Wayne, it pours”). I guess some of you cats who are going through some shit because of a woman may appreciate this. Is it me of does the beat remind you of “Shut It Down” from Thank Me Later?

8. Interlude
Performed by Tech N9ne & Andree 3000; Produced by Willy Will
Same beat as the intro except this time there is no Wayne. Tech and 3 Stacks kill this though:

[Tech N9ne:]
Heart’s what it is
Watch what the kid drops, I’ma get the prop if you’re not wit’ the biz
Not only other regions, I really popped at the crib
So hatin’ motherfuckers, you better stop with the jibs
All for the dibs, but I’m boss
It’s don’t matter what the cost when I live right across from the Wiz
Killa City will have a nigga lost in the Mids
Doin’ nothin’ but mothers stackin’ pussy coffin again
What is happenin’ is a merger, different levels of murder
Lil Weezy cook it and I’ma serve her
Further, guess what I’ma go do wit’ this women when we’re eatin’ Gerber?
Mama said to kill ‘em all, and I heard her
Thank you, baby, for what became Lil Wayne
It’s good that all the people know when Strange in the game
I been really able to hang in the fame
But when he shot at my nig was when it changed in my lane
I’m accustomed, fucking lovin’ nothin’ but to get your brain
And I be stuck in lust and quick to bust a nut and take a nigga’s dame wit’ no shame
When they be bussin’ ‘nough, they thinkin’ they thuggin’ tough
But never do knuckle up, you in the game, you bang
You druggin’, touchin’ everything, you lame?
Sucka, you cannot sustain the rain
Tech N9ne is such a cuckoo in this
Balla nigga, Strange Music, coupe through swishas
I know a lot of you prolly never knew who this is
Well, you listenin’ to Tecca Nina, soo woo bidness

[Andre 3000:]
Today, I feel electric gray, I hope tomorrow neon black
I tell a nigga all those flows are borrowed, it’s the phar-oh, Three Stacks
I woke up in Cai-ro, lookin’ at stars so bright in the sky I thought they were marbles
No car doors, whatcha call those? A whole carload of raw hoes
In a Jeep Defender, please remember, don’t feed the Simba
Three’s a symbol like nobody, he’s a symbol of what’s safari
Pulled her ponytail to my body, she’s the only girl that was smart enough to call me Mr. Benjamin in the middle of a wild party
Skin was cinnamon, I pound it harder, how come the only girls that are thought of
Are the light ones? Well, tonight, then, we gon’ do it, do it, do it for the dark ones
It’s important that you are more than welcome to the Carter IV and
Y’all enjoy it, I will go ‘head, and I’ll kiss y’all on y’all forehead

9. John (If I Die Today)
Featuring Rick Ross; Produced by Polow The Don
How many times can they possibly remix “I’m Not a Star” from Rozay. I actually like this on, even though I wasn’t feeling it until I saw the visuals from the video. This is another highlight of the album. The production is really just a darker sounding “I’m Not A Star”. I bet Wayne wanted to be apart of the remix and just took this as a consolation. Rozay actually out rapped Wayne on this one.

10. Abortion
Produced by The Comission & StreetRunner
The beat sounds like something that would have been made for Rebirth. When the song actually starts and I hear the Auto Tune, I just put my head down and hoped he wasn’t going to do it the entire song. Fortunately he avoids the use of a vocoder for the rest of the song. Still the song is pretty forgetful. It isn’t a skip, but nothing great either.

11. So Special
Featuring John Legend; Produced by Cool & Dre
I like this right here. This is probably the next single from the album. Wayne drops some nice line here too, “She crazy about that dick. Lorena Bobbitt”. I can imagine a nice video for this joint.

12. How To Love
Produced by Noel “Detail” Fisher & Drum Up
This is the single that was put out to gain crossover appeal. I know most people on our site will hate this, but I can deal with it way better than I can with “Lollipop”. Wayne says he intended to make women feel better and that this was inspired by the late Tupac Shakur. I don’t really hear it, but ok. The video is a definite heart tugger though.

13. President Carter
Produced by Angel “Onhel” Aponte, Christopher Allen, & Infamous
When I first saw the title of this song, I assumed he would be doing a conceptual song like he did with “Dr. Carter”. I was wrong. Although he touches the idea of being the head of our country with lines like, “Smoking weed and getting head in the oval office” he doesn’t go to the same depth that he has the ability to go. I do however like the song, but it doesn’t meet my expectations.

14. It’s Good
Featuring Jadakiss & Drake; Produced by Cool & Dre
This is the most controversial track on the album. The beat is dope. I forgot Cool & Dre had this type of talent. With that said, Jadakiss didn’t wow me at all but Drake showed people he can still rap (He been on that R&B shit for the past 9 months). The controversy comes from Wayne and his verse. I remember when he said that he would play around with Jay-Z’s “Baby Money” line, but I wasn’t expecting this:

Talkin ’bout baby money? I got your baby money
Kidnap your bitch, get that ‘how much you love your lady’ money
I know you fake nigga, press your brakes nigga
I’ll take you out, that’s a date nigga

As surprised as I was, this is a pretty weak diss. I doubt this will push Hov to respond.

15. Outro
Performed by Bun B, Nas, Shyne, & Busta Rhymes; Produced by Willy Will
All of these legends hop on the beat to show their respect for Wayne. Everyone does their thing on here, except for Shyne who seems uncomfortable and out of place here. Nas and Busta kill this though.

[Verse 2: Nas]
Look who crept in with automatic weapons, reppin’ QB till the death of him
That nigga that inspired lyrical tyrants like Kanye West and Em
Track record goes back to “The Essence”,
Smack adolescents who ask who the best is
I’m nasty like gas from a fat man, attested,
I pass it, you gaspin’ for breath and you die fast
But I’m like a gastric bypass,
Bunch of Nas African actors seemed to get typecast in the same role
Since 16 I ain’t grow a day old yet my brain grow, cocaine white Range Rov’
Tats on my body like an art exhibit, I did real good for a project nigga
Was once a Bacardi sipper, now it’s Chandon,
Fat blunts in the car with strippers
Guns in compartments hidden, I was real young, little youth, a novice nigga
Blessings, bowed down, respected, chowed down now my food’s digested
Pow pow, with my shooters are Techs, bust louder than the noise I just spit
Let’s get one thing straight that my crown ain’t for testin’… testin’
Chop heads off like King Henry the 8th, guillotine to ya neck, bitch!
I’m a king in this thing, don’t be dumb
Been in this shit since ‘91
Niggas can’t fuck with the style I use
Your fate is sealed, no Heidi Klum
Calm now, was a wylin’ dude, studied cowards that made power moves
Watched Wild Planet seen lions devour food, you can say that’s how I move
A monster nigga, and I don’t really like doing songs with niggas
There go my nigga Wayne, let them niggas hate
I love my nigga Drake say “we ain’t got time to respond to niggas

[Verse 4: Busta Rhymes]
They say I’m underrated, but un-compete-with-able
Understandable, being that my rating levels are unreachable
Anything said other than that should be silenced, unspeakable!
And the thought of you being nicer than me, unfeasible!
They ask is what I do ever gonna stop, this shit will never end
That’s when you hear a car crash in the vocal booth got em sayin’
“There he goes again!”
See now they nominated a nigga to come and flatten everything
Now let me dominate it, nigga run
And they be knowin’ that I be blackin’ on everything
And make it complicated like a nigga constipated with a gun
I gotta make it what they want and wake ‘em when I come and shake ‘em
And bake ‘em and take ‘em to another place
Ain’t no fakin’, ain’t no kind of mistakin’ how I be breakin’ up
Everything and be creating a s-s-s-situation when I’m done (Damn!)
You see I spit National Treasure, discography rich
And I done killed more cats than curiosity, snitch!
Most of you niggas sorry and owe apologies, quick
What the fuck you niggas still hangin’ around here for, you apostrophe bitch?
OK, now enough of that, see now I’m out the door
Tunechi, thanks for giving us a whole ‘nother classic with Tha Carter IV

Bottom Line:
So what do we get with Tha Carter IV? Well after you try and put away your unbelievably high expectations, you notice you get a pretty solid album. Is this the album that I wanted from Wayne? No! I feel like he is one of the most talented emcees that the game has right now. I feel that sometimes he doesn’t put his best foot forward, because he knows an average Wayne track is better than most of artists that we have out right now. I fully believe Wayne will have a classic before it is all said and done. On this album you will hear Wayne reference time a lot. Although he didn’t answer the question of is this going to be his last album or not, you can tell that it is something on his mind. I fully believe we will hear Tha Carter V within the next couple years.

  • this album was better than WTT, but I can bet B-Easy doing that review had something to do with it. But all in all, I am satisfied with it.


    • DuB

      I agree that this is better than WTT.

    • Wow. the first comment is:

      “this album was better than WTT, but I can bet B-Easy doing that review had something to do with it.”

      I had this long response about Tha Carter IV and how this is probably the first DuB review that I totally disagree with. But I’ll wait.

      • Mike L

        I don’t think this album is better than WTT, but I do think it’s just as good. Not in the sense of lyrics or concepts, but in immediate satisfaction. WTT the throne is a great album that gets better as you let it settle. C4 is a banger off top and is definately one for the whip.

    • P-Body

      After hearing both of these albums now I have to slide with B on this one. I like WTT better than this shit. Wayne became too comfortable and lazy on the lyrics. Then besides y’all cosign everything that man does, let somebody else do some of the stuff y’all would have a DMF award and everything. Stop being so biased

      • Am I surprised that you are siding with B?


        • P-Body

          Am I surprise you co-sign bs?

          • You mad…

            but on the real…you know Easy be persuading you. You like Kanye and he like Jay to you.

          • P-Body

            Dude get real why would I be mad? This isn’t something to raise my blood pressure on and plus we go back like four flats mane. Dude if you read my other comments I wrote before I was a big Kanye fan at one point. In 04-07 I loved his beats like hell and he was super ill on the soulful tip but when he start acting like a female my respect for him went down. I always liked Jay-Z also but like I said lately he don’t go hard like he use to.. Same as for Wayne, Wayne don’t go hard no more either and just say things that don’t make sense but Jay-Z & Kanye lyrically are better than Wayne. After listening to both albums and comparing the two on a thorough listen I like WTT a little better than Carter IV, that’s not saying much though. Carter IV don’t suck but it isn’t great just like WTT isn’t great to me either but both albums are good but not good enough for me to bang everyday though. I had high expectations for both albums and the didn’t reach them, WTT felt like it was more of a effort than what Wayne did. For 3 years you would think Wayne would come out with an hard album. I hope T.I. don’t fail me or I’m going to start pointing fingers at him also.

  • Rickjamesbitch

    Good review, I disagree with a lot of it but I can’t fault your reasons for liking some songs. I greatly prefer the live version of Nightmares though, he sounds more alive on that one but on the album one he just sounds sleepy to me, glad he added the 3rd verse though.

    And FYI C3 didnt sell 1.5 million, it sold like 1.05 million, that’s a huge difference.

    • DuB

      According to MTV it sold 1.5 million, but I have seen it reported different.

  • Anonymous

    good review DUB, im thinking I might check out a few of the tracks. probably download it if its worth it.

  • P From Da D

    4 stars tho? In what world? I honestly listnened to this album and had a good laugh thats how lost weak and misguided this thing is. You didnt even wanna give this a 4 based off your own review! Come on man im tied of this

    • DuB

      It is 4 stars in the same world that “The Hybrid” is 4.5 stars.

      • P From Da D

        The Hybrid was a better album easily

      • P From Da D

        Check some of the other blogs and reviews im not the only one who thought it was that dope, almost every review is great on it

        • DuB

          That can also be said about this album. I’m not a super Wayne fan, and no my expectations weren’t fully met. Still judging this on the actual music as a whole and putting aside expectations, this was an album that you can listen from beginning to end with maybe two skips. After people let this sit, they will appreciate it much more, just like Thank Me Later.

          • P From Da D

            Yeah I checked other blogs on this and almost every one has it rated a lot lower than you do

          • DJ LP

            Wait wait wait….people appreciated Thank Me Later more as time passed?

          • P-Bod

            Thank Me Later album did not grow on me at all til this day. I only liked about 5 or 6 songs off of it. I actually forgot about that album until now

  • DuB

    I will admit that I had ti let this album marinate, a lot. If I reviewed it after first listen it probably would have gotten 3 stars.

    • DJ LP

      thats a problem

    • P From Da D

      Just say it man! You didnt wanna give it an honest review cuz its Wayne!

      • DuB

        I am not A Wayne Stan bro

        • P From Da D

          I didnt say you were and I didnt give that impression but it seems to when it comes to big time releases or releases from big time artists you guys are a lil gunshy to be honest about them

          • DuB

            You must not be familiar with my writing. Check out my T.I. review. I just feel this album will grow on you. If I’m wrong and in a few months I am wrong, I will admitt it.

  • Ty

    I gotta say if Tha Carter 3 was a 4 or maybe 4.5 then this should be a 3 or 3.5. This album is not better than Watch The Throne and no where near. Nightmares of the Bottom was just like Gossip, great live but just ok on record. This album is no better than Flockaveli seriously!

    • Ty

      If this is a 4 then B Easy needs to re-review WTT as a 6/5 stars

    • Mr. Jones

      Flockaveli is a much much better record.

  • First listen it was a 3, further listening pushed it to a 4. Only truly wack songs are How To Hate & Nightmares From The Bottom.

  • Bigt915

    Okay, I am a huge Wayne fan. I’ve waited for this album ever since C3, and personally, the album leaves something to be desired. It just doesn’t feel like “Tha Carter IV.” Feel me? I just find it hard to believe in 3 years THIS is the best Wayne can come up with. The same dude that made “I’m Me” and “Dr. Carter” and “Love Me or Hate Me” and ALL those mixtapes. I actually enjoyed C3 WAY more. I would give C4 a 3.25. Not great but coulda been better. Also “Mirrors” should have replaced “How To Hate.”

  • Raza

    nice review. it doesn’t matter what wayne put out tbh he would have got ripped into. compare it to T.I coming out of jail and releasing No Mercy, everybody wanted more since it was so hyped up, not noticing that it is quite decent. People rush to conclusions too often.

    • Eagle Eye

      @ Raza — I agree. I destroyed TI last album. But now listening to album it was a good and solid offering. I think sense I’m not a huge Wayne fan or hater this album to me is very good. Wayne could drop Illmatic IV and still would’ve been stoned regardless. lol — Although leopard pants did not help…lol

  • P-Body

    This is not no 4 stars…. Some of the lyrics he say on here don’t make no sense whatsoever. To me this album a 3 and like BigT915 said after waiting 3 years this is the best that Wayne can come up with? This is ridiculous especially if he is the so called best rapper alive… If he did not have the guest features on here it probably would be a better album. After hearing them dope verses and then hearing Lil Wayne verses it was pretty sad for me to listen to the rest of the album. Wayne couldn’t keep up and he became real lazy with the lyrics nowadays. After this review and the stuff you co-sign from Wayne you shouldn’t even be bashing Pac anymore. Pac made more sense than this album. I’m a Wayne fan too but I have to honest with myself. This album felt like Carter 3.5 not a Carter IV.

    • DuB

      What does Pac have to do with thiss???

      • P-Body

        I’m just saying you bashed a great but you co-sign this… This album is okay, just okay. He didn’t make no bomb album like you would think he would especially since he haven’t dropped an album in 3 years besides the EP and mixtapes. He not only went back but he went a whole staircase back

        • DuB

          Man!!! What the fuck is wrong with you Pac fans? I didn’t disrespect the nigga. You are acting like I just had a forsome with your mom, sister, and your wife and sent you the fucking video.

          I made valid points that no one could even dispute. Fuck your feeling on that issue, if you want to talk about it go on that page.

          • P-Body

            Naw if a person did all that I would have to beat them to a bloody pulp if they was living in my city. But you are the one who getting all emotional I’m just stating what is obvious from you. Apparently it is some truth to it since you are all riled up. I don’t have to cuss and get all emotional to get my point across, Yoga got me so calm it don’t even make no sense. On that Pac article you didn’t make the clearest sense so your point haven’t been made, you just steadily saying he went to art school, no classic albums and yada yada. You always think because everything you say is suppose to be correct and truth, it everything you said was the truth then everybody would agree but you had more people debating against you than a little bit. Honestly though after really listening to the lyrics from Wayne you really think all those lyrics are good on this album? A 14 year old Wayne lyrically was spitting more vicious compared to this.

    • I swear to God that this nigga is AUTISTIC! You ALWAYS fall back on the same stuff.

      Get a new bag P-Body..the one you using now is getting old.

      You said WTT was after talking to B, you like it all of a sudden??? I know MJ is your favorite artist and all, but why you MOONWALKING like the nigga on this subject?

      • P-Body

        After listening to WTT a little more in depth and listening to this album, lyrically Carter IV isn’t impressing me at all. It is overrated at best.. This is one of the albums I was hyped about too but dammit it didn’t live up to it.

        • So is it safe to assume that you will be liking this album after a couple more listens?

          • P-Body

            I don’t think so man. Me and Wayne fell off & on for some time now ever since the Hot Boys left.. The Carter I, I thought that dude was the man! But after hearing this and Carter III, I’m just not pleased with him. Then some of his lyrics nowadays got too lazy and don’t make sense. But people co-signing him though instead of being honest with themselves

      • DuB

        “I swear to God this nigga is AUTISTIC”

        Lmao, but I cosign the feeling.

        P-Body you spent a good week hating on WTT and now all of a sudden it is dope?

        I like bothh albums, but I think C4 is a little better.

        • P-Body

          If you read my other comments on that WTT review I said the album is good but it isn’t great. But compared to Carter IV it is much better when I compare the too. Especially once I sat down and really listen to both of those albums… Lil Wayne said some stuff on here that made me scratch my head. People only cosigning the shit he says because he is whats in right now and people are so blind by it. I may like Wayne but I’m nowhere near biased on the dude.

        • P-Body

          *Compared the two*

  • FuRoc

    I agree that Wayne couldve/shouldve done better,but this is still a hot album. Since I’m over 25, I kinda vibe to WTT better!!

  • FuRoc

    By the way GREAT SITE guys!! keep it the good work

  • Eagle Eye

    I agere with the review. 4 star album

    After serveral listen this maybe 4.5 star album imo – I know ni66as goin disagree – but I realy don’t skip anything on this CD (on the deluxe version). I think Watch The Throne & Carter IV are gems along with Shaolin versus Wu tang — GREAT REVIEW!

  • Opinion1345

    This album is mediocre. At best it’s a 2.5 out of 5 stars.

  • Just saying

    There are alot of websites posting a ‘Top Worst lil wayne the carter 4 lines’ …all you need to know about the album. just saying

    • Yeah…they took the time to do that…sad

      just saying

  • Atmosphere

    my problem is that a lot of the beats sound similar to eachother or similar to beats from other songs. Like She Will sounds like Im Goin In when Drake does the hook. But I like that Wayne sounded comfortable on this album unlike some other stuff he’s done. But I think this will get appreciated more as time goes on but theres a lot of fillers but also standouts so I guess a 3/5 would do this justice

  • P-Body

    “Married to the money, a true love story” okay then…. Isn’t that on the list of the top 60 worst lines…. Then you want to speak on lyrical content, oh please..

    • Eagle Eye

      P-Body — don’t you think your nick picking. Tht t same agruement you defended Pac on — You can’t use tht to go against Wayne! Pac is my top 5 alltime but he is not lyrically touching Wayne (not lyically). My boi Pac has alot of bad lines homie- yet your pick one or two bar tht may not have went as planed. I think we all can’t take the top 5 Emcee on everyone list pick a few bars here or there. C’mon P-Body – I read your comments on other post. You always on point – BUT RECEPTIVELY I think your picking on Wayne. i think Wayne is the modern day Pac – Loved by many hated by few. Think about it.

      • P-Body

        Dude Wayne be saying some stuff that don’t make sense… How many times I have to explain I’m a Wayne fan and back in the day it was nothing wrong you can say about Cash Money but as I got older my outlook changed. Trust me that “Whats Your Phone #” by 2Pac is a fucked up song. I still wonder why Pac made that shit, I hate that song.. The lyrics on that song sucked. See I’m not that biased with pac either. I truly hate that song. When I was younger during that time I thought the song didn’t fit the album and today I still don’t think that song fit on “All Eyez On Me”. You can’t compare Pac & Wayne maybe how Wayne is on a global level but at the same time there are people who still don’t respect Wayne as a lyricist. Lil Wayne claim to be a blood, New Orleans don’t have gangs. He trying to be a skateboarder now, kissing Baby, and wearing tight leopard pants. Y’all cosigning that stuff but if somebody else like a Nas or Ludacris would have did this y’all would clown them. If Lil Wayne would have came out the gate being that way then I could respect it and say “Hey that’s just Wayne” but naw Wayne is confused right now. At one point I truly started to believe Wayne was the best rapper alive… During Carter I & II era he had improved alot man, he always been good but lyrically he was on another level. Now it seem like he going backwards, that’s my problem. Wayne has mad potential but he just isn’t going hard like he use to. That’s my problem with Jay-Z even though I’m a fan of his I feel like he don’t go as hard as he use to either but he still one of the best lyricist right now and of all time. Wayne is far from garbage but I’m just like “WTF” right now. The album is a 3 in my book so the album is good but it isn’t great, overhyped at best. Just like WTT is good but it isn’t great… I can listen to WTT a little more than I can Carter IV. Overall those two albums are better than most people stuff this year.. Game album is good to me also. I’m waiting on Nas new one and hopefully we will get an Outkast album also this year.

        • Eagle Eye

          I gotcha P-Body. Good points – But for me. I just focus on the music. But hear everything your saying about Wayne Kissing Baby, gang bangin or skate boarding – — only realy have a probably with him kissing another man and calln him baby (smh) — but his music is good to great — Carter IV imo is a great album once U get passed the all the other points. Oh on a Sidenote –did not like What’s phone # until I got older and started bangin my hoez out to it. lol

        • New Orleans ain’t got gangs? I wonder why the History channel did a show about them on Gangland?


        • DuB

          Bro my cousin bangs and he stays in New Orleans. They have been the murder capital many years. how can you claim ain’t no gangs out there.

          • P-Body

            @Dub, you’re right on the murder capital thing. They was really boiling in 94 with the murders. Soulja Slim said “If you survive passed 94 and was on the streets, you are a real gangsta”. That is pretty sad though and people brag about that like it is cool or something.

        • P-Body

          They don’t have gangs like Bloods & Crips… They go by wards….. It is not organized like gangs in California and Houston. Like B.G. said its every man for themselves down there. I have friends who are from New Orleans and one of my friends moved back to the 11th Ward… @Jerm, remember they murked the Bloods & Crips for trying to setup shop in the N.O., also on that gangland episode they said gangs is wack. It don’t take 15 people to kill one person there, it only take 1 person to kill 15 people. They don’t call that place Chopper City for nothing

          • DuB

            My cousin is a Blood who is from the 3rd Ward.

          • P-Body

            They must have started doing the bloods & crips thing after Katrina then because before then they didn’t do no Bloods & Crips. When B.G. dissed Mystikal on “True Story” song off of UNLV album and his first album he said move to LA if you wanna be a crip.

          • DuB

            I went to the N.O. right after Katrina to help with the relief, they had cats out there banging Bloods hard out there. I won’t lie I never really saw cripts, but where there is one there is another.

          • P-Body

            From what I’m reading though they was saying that gangs probably moved into the N.O. after the Katrina thing because most of the time the so called gangs or wards they represent be a group of guys who grew up together or family who are drug dealers. A lot of them be killing folks at a young age smh. Remember on the gangland show when they talked about the New Orleans gangs moving to Houston they was wearing the Solja Rags *Like Juvenile did* so they won’t get confused with the other gangs like the Bloods & Crips, MS13

            This is one of the gangs of New Orleans right here.. A lot of these folks are just homeboys around the way.

          • P-Body
          • P-Body

            8th Ward Animals. See a lot of them gangs are just homeboys or young kids. What trip me out is the 60 day rule, you kill somebody and then get out soon unless somebody snitch.

          • A gang is a group of people who, through the organization, formation, and establishment of an assemblage, share a common identity.

            So your whole argument was “they don’t have gangs in NOLA” then it turned into “they don’t have gangs like the bloods and crips” They got got gangs down there bruh.

          • P-Body

            Ok but they don’t have gang problems like California, Little Rock, Chicago, and even Houston Texas. Even Soulja Slim didn’t mention no big time gangs he mentioned wards which they claimed and how people kill for themselves since the economy always been fucked up down there, they got to get it how they live. They have a big drug trade there also, some of them will kill their friends my dude. Old group Partners N Crime from the N.O. said they don’t have Bloods N Crips in their songs, but that was back in the 90’s like I said they New Orleans may have those type of gangs now. It only take 1 person to kill 15 people, you need to rewatch that Gang Land episode again… Bloods N Crips, Vice Lords and whatever get in cars 15 deep to kill one person.

          • there are more gangs than the blood and crips, dude.

            I’m done with this argument.

  • DJ LP

    if this is a 4 then I might as well give J. Cole’s album classic status before I even review it

    • Atmosphere

      lmao damn yeah man I gotta co-sign with that statement

  • Rickjamesbitch

    iSouljaboyTellem > Carter IV

    • P-Body

      Soulja Boy?? Naw I’ll rather listen to Carter IV a whole year straight everyday than to listen to Soulja Boy.

      • Rickjamesbitch

        Lol I was kidding, this is just a very stagnant album to me. Wayne isn’t breaking any new ground and his rhymes are lazy half of the time. Wayne needs to stop coasting

  • Inf.

    I like how Wayne gets a pass for everything…

  • Practical

    If people say this was overhyped, they should hone their critical thinking skills…the album was exactly what I expected. Basically Wayne is a fortune cookie…somewhat clever phrases wrapped in something very unappetizing.

  • Mr. Jones

    High expectations? i haven’t expected anything from a Wayne album since Rebirth and I was STILL disappointed. His second worst album imo.

  • Pitbull

    Wayne DIED after No Ceilings. I don’t even know who he is anymore. Where’s that nigga that did Tha Mobb and Feel Me and Get Over…WHERE’S THAT 03-06 WAYNE??

  • Pitbull

    What ya’ll are getting now is “Lil Wayne” and “Lil Tunechi”…Nigga please, bring back DWAYNE CARTER!

    This album was a 1.5 at BEST!

  • J-B-C

    this album is a lil overrated imo i give it a 2.5 maybe 3 at most

  • At first I was mad at this rating til I looked in iTunes and say my album rating averaged out to a 4 too. It’s not bad, technically it’s better than C3 which really, really isn’t that great at all (I listened to C2 3 and 4 back to back). Blunt Blowing is one of the most boring songs on this album and the MegaMan beat is just like John, a cheap unofficial remix. Ross does well on that song but it’s still one of my least fave, I’ll stick to I’m Not a Star, thanks. It’s Good is the hardest track.

    Lyrically and creatively Wayne is on a real decline, the review in Spin by Sean Fennessy is real truth and a good read, go peep. I will say that while this doesnt have songs nearly as dumb or fail as C3, at least that album in its entirety was a huge effort and a creative attempt. This ain’t making no one beg him to stay around.

  • P From Da D

    Im just saying if this is a four Precious is a 9

    • don’t hurt your back reaching like that.

    • P-Body

      That’s a lot of weight…

  • CaH

    No way is this album a 4/5. This is the worst Carter album. “Lifes a bitch, but you gotta keep her wet”…Life’s a bitch, and the bitch is real mean…Lifes a bitch, but u gotta keep fucking her”…BORINGG…..Carter 1 & 2 are great albums.

  • Ty

    Wow where are all the Wayne/YMCMB dicketers? I can’t believe there aren’t people supporting this 4/5 rating. Maybe there is hope for the world and hip hop especially!

  • P (P From Da D)

    That Shyne shit was worse than Slavery tho

    • “That Shyne shit was worse than Slavery tho”

      We need to start handing out prizes for some of these comments.

      If we did, this one would get 1st prize.


  • JuiceHustlin

    Did yall do sizzurp before listening to this album? It was pure garbage, i’m starting to question your credentials on rating hip hop albums….

  • JamesOrenthalSimpson

    “Gorillas in suits
    The holy war, the spiritual troops
    Fighting over the mythical truth
    Drowning in the political soup
    They shoot missiles and nukes
    Taking out such a pivotal group
    The body count is the physical proof
    And they thought drugs were killing the youth”

    President Carter is the ONLY song that he lyrically came hard on….In My Opinion of course…

    • saule wright

      *THIS* I was like, hold up, is there a feature here? Who the fuck wrote this? WHY DON’T HE DO THIS SHIT ALL THE TIME!!!!!

  • Johnny TuFly

    im sorry but this website bullshits alot on reviews. how is this a 4? u bashed tyler the creator for not talking about shit but wayne literally spits bullshit out his mouth and u praise it? you saying this is a 4 also states that this is as good as recovery, section.80, and finally famouse. i think you need to fix ur rating scale cuz this album is average(3)

    • What part of different viewpoints do you NOT get? If one person reviewed all of the albums you named..then MAYBE I could see your point.

      • DJ LP

        Gotta agree with Jerm on this one

  • JSK

    Tha Carter 2 > Tha Carter > Tha Carter 3 >= Tha Carter 4

    Honestly, Tha Carter 4 isn’t Wayne’s best album, neither was Tha Carter 3. Still, they’re both pretty good albums. Tha Carter 2 is Wayne’s best studio album to date in my opinion (I’ve been listening to it ever since it dropped). 3.5 or a 4, it doesn’t really matter. Tha Carter 4 is still a solid album. It’s not better than WTT, and time will tell that, but it is still a good release with some nice tracks. It’s no classic and maybe in time, Wayne will drop one; we’ll have to wait and see. I don’t think this is the last album we see from Weezy though.

    • Ty

      Tha Carter 2 > Tha Carter 3 > Tha Carter > Tha Carter 4

  • JSK

    Eh, it just depends on how you look at each album. If you’re looking for bangers, then Carter 3 beats Carter 1 hands down. But if you’re looking for strong lyrics, no auto-tune, and some dope rhymes (mainly just no auto-tune, because Weezy does through down some dope lines in C3), then you’ll favor Carter 1. Personally, I think Carter 1 is better because Carter 3 is filled with auto-tune and I like the old Wayne, when it was just him and a microphone, so that’s why I like it better. I agree that Carter 2’s the best though no doubt, and Carter 4 is definitely the weakest, although close to Carter 3’s level of goodness. I just don’t think people have truly listed to C4 yet (there’s some really good stuff in their).

  • JamesOrenthalSimpson

    If these dudes so upset over how Wayne’s rappin style is nowadays..and yall prefer to hear his old style..just get his old shit (I’m Just sayin)

  • fuck b easy wayne 4 life

  • arkitekt

    2.5 / 5….Average

    Real weak lyrically. The beats bang but not that original.

    Anyone have a version of that Willy Willy beat with everyone on it?

  • Hunter

    To pay respect to wayne? MY ASS! Nas did it cuz he’s Nas and wayne has money and Nasir is broke.

    • arkitekt

      I don’t know about that. Nas has been touring since Distant Relatives so he’s not broke by any means. Maybe because he had Lil Wayne on Distant Relatives.

  • DuB

    I went back to listen to this after I heard everyone hating on the score I gave it. I think the problem is that people are grading this on a Weezy curb. Meaning that you are saying that this album isn’t a great “Wayne” album instead of rating this as a Hip Hop album.

    In many ways this is Wayne’s comeback album like Jay-Z’s Kingdome Come (4 stars), Eminem’s Relaspse (4.5 stars) and Nas’ Nigger (4 Stars). All of those albums had mixed reviews as well.

    • Rickjamesbitch

      None of those albums except Nas’ album deserved their score. This album isn’t 4 stars because Wayne’s lyricism is sub par and the beats are generic. Relapse dang sure isn’t a 4.5 cuz its so repetitive and Kingdom Come isn’t a 4 cuz Jay’s lyrics are lazy. Yes Wayne could’ve done better but that doesn’t mean this album deserves a 4, good rapping is good rapping regardless of who’s doing it, I’d just be more surprised to hear Lil B or Wacka drop hot bars than I would to hear Wayne but overall I’d give the same score, this album is a 3 to me. In your Pac article (which i agree with) you say Pac wasn’t that great a lyricist, what’s so great about these lyrics? A lot of Wayne fans have a habit of praising him for his good lines but overlooking his bad ones, Wayne has some nice lines on here but he definitely had some bad lines. He said “You can have it your way like Burger King” and several other trash lines on Megaman but you still praised it -_- I respect all of the reviewers here on the fro and I realize this is all a matter of opinion but I gotta disagree with this one. I dang sure aint giving Weezy any kind of curb, especially not with him doing tracks like some of the ones on here..

  • arkitekt

    gotta co-sign this

  • B-Easy

    115 comments disappeared? Damn.

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